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a question of feedback

  • Jun. 13th, 2006 at 12:07 AM
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So I pretty much missed the whole hate meme phenomena, or at least the SGA one. A lot of people have been posting their outrage, and yeah. I just don't get it (hate memes that is, not outrage) because it seems like, at least in the supernatural threads, it was all about "blah blah blah I hate this person because they write stuff I don't like and they're obviously a huge bitch because other people do like it."

Um. Way to be self-sabotaging fandom! Hating people who are actively participating in fandom just because they're participating is not going to help anything. And what's up with the personal vendettas against BNFs? There's this really nifty feature called the scroll button when you don't want to read something.

Anyway, some people defend hate memes because they're like, the only opportunity for non-BNFs to be heard and anonymous commenting levels the playing field or something. Yes, it totally sucks that lj is more of a popularity contest than a cohesive community, but seriously, if you're yourself are actually involved in fandom, can you not see the good in encouraging everyone to participate? Because it seems to me that a lot of times creative people play off of each other and encouraging that should never, ever be a bad thing. One thing I do wish though, is that some of the stuff brought up in the hate threads could actually be discussed outside of the context of petty, spiteful commentary.

[livejournal.com profile] eleveninches posted the other day, I think in response to something that came up in [livejournal.com profile] sga_hate, about authors responding to feedback. She asked if people are affected by whether or not an author responds to their feedback. While I didn't see the original threads, I imagine some of the hate was directed at several prolific authors in the sga fandom who somewhat notoriously don't respond to feedback. In response to her questions I said this about my feedback habits:

I really try to leave feedback for everything I enjoyed reading, but if it's a writer who I know doesn't respond to feedback, I usually won't bother. Above and beyond any considerations of fandom etiquette and politeness, not responding to feedback (at least to me) seems to indicate a certain level of indifference towards even getting feedback at all.

And personally, I like writing feedback, I like picking out what I loved, and telling writers exactly what worked for me. So I usually spend a good amount of time trying to construct something more than a quick "thanks!" (not that there's anything wrong with doing that, sometimes it's all I have time for too.) Fandom is a reciprocal culture, if I don't feel like the time I put into feedback is appreciated, I won't leave it. And more than that, feedback is pretty much the best opportunity for readers to interact with writers, it's how a lot of meta gets discussed, and how a lot of people meet new friends. I don't think every writer has to automatically make friends with all of their reviewers, but I think it's nice when the channels of communication are at least open to that, even if all it is is a standard thank you reply, at least that's something.

Some of the best meta discussions I've had have come out of feedback threads, [livejournal.com profile] synecdochic is especially good at fostering those sorts of conversations when she posts fanfic. I know I've gotten to be better friends with at least half of the writers on my friendslist through conversations that started with feedback. And I know not all authors are interested in that or have time for that, but at least a thank you is, I think, called for when people give you a compliment. It just feels, at worst, rude and at least, like they don't care that people have left them feedback.

(stealing [livejournal.com profile] eleveninches' questions:) What do you guys think? Does anyone think a blanketed thank you is a poor response to feedback? Do you not leave feedback if the author doesn't say thanks? Do you get annoyed seeing an author saying a standard thank you to every comment left for them? Do you not care and leave feedback regardless of the author's actions? And, because I know there are several authors on my friendslist, do you guys all respond to your feedback? Do you feel like you have to? Or that it's a waste of time when all you can really say is "thanks" 40 times?

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[identity profile] saffronlie.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2006 07:47 am (UTC)
As an author, I try to respond to all feedback, and I take my cues from the person who commented. If they gave me a short "That was great" then all that's needed is an equally short "Thanks!" in return. If they write a more detailed comment, singling out aspects like characterisation or style or a canon issue, then I like to agree or disagree or add something more to my reply. I agree with you that the dialogue that such exchanges can open up is very valuable.

Also, as a very small author with a tiny output, every piece of feedback is precious, especially when I write in tiny, underground fandoms like the Vampire Chronicles. (Readers in small fandoms are always more appreciative of your work, if it's good, because it's difficult to find *any* fic, let alone good ones -- as opposed to Harry Potter or whatever, where you can't take two steps without tripping over a dozen good fics, and a dozen bad ones, too.) Not that I base my sense of self-worth on how many comments my fic gets, because really, I'm not 12 years old, but it's nice to let someone know that you appreciated them taking the time to read your work and reply.

As for leaving feedback myself, I'm kind of lazy. I know, I'm terrible. It depends on what I have to do -- if I can leave an LJ comment or a message on a review board, then I will. If I have to write an email, then I probably won't bother, because that's more effort. (The exception to that is if I'm trawling a collection of fics by the one author and I've enjoyed several and their email address is displayed in a prominent place.) But if I read the fic all the way through and I liked it and it's on LJ, then I'll comment, no problem. What I actually say depends on if there's anything I can single out about the story to remark upon. Also, if I can see that a lot of other people have said the same sort of things then I'll hold back or find something new to say, because I don't like being repetitive.
[identity profile] theantimodel.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2006 07:55 am (UTC)
I think a lot of authors do the same as you, taking cues from what reviewers say, and yeah, not all reviewers give you much of an opening for saying much more than thanks, but I've always thought it's nice when an author says something back, even if it is just thanks.

As far as leaving feedback, I am pretty bad at emailing comments too. Livejournal has definitely provided a more convenient setting for feedback (or at least a more familiar one at this point.) Although, I probably have a slightly bigger impetus to leave feedback since I pretty much rec everything I enjoyed enough to review, and I like to take a moment to let the author know that I've recced their story.