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a question of feedback

  • Jun. 13th, 2006 at 12:07 AM
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So I pretty much missed the whole hate meme phenomena, or at least the SGA one. A lot of people have been posting their outrage, and yeah. I just don't get it (hate memes that is, not outrage) because it seems like, at least in the supernatural threads, it was all about "blah blah blah I hate this person because they write stuff I don't like and they're obviously a huge bitch because other people do like it."

Um. Way to be self-sabotaging fandom! Hating people who are actively participating in fandom just because they're participating is not going to help anything. And what's up with the personal vendettas against BNFs? There's this really nifty feature called the scroll button when you don't want to read something.

Anyway, some people defend hate memes because they're like, the only opportunity for non-BNFs to be heard and anonymous commenting levels the playing field or something. Yes, it totally sucks that lj is more of a popularity contest than a cohesive community, but seriously, if you're yourself are actually involved in fandom, can you not see the good in encouraging everyone to participate? Because it seems to me that a lot of times creative people play off of each other and encouraging that should never, ever be a bad thing. One thing I do wish though, is that some of the stuff brought up in the hate threads could actually be discussed outside of the context of petty, spiteful commentary.

[livejournal.com profile] eleveninches posted the other day, I think in response to something that came up in [livejournal.com profile] sga_hate, about authors responding to feedback. She asked if people are affected by whether or not an author responds to their feedback. While I didn't see the original threads, I imagine some of the hate was directed at several prolific authors in the sga fandom who somewhat notoriously don't respond to feedback. In response to her questions I said this about my feedback habits:

I really try to leave feedback for everything I enjoyed reading, but if it's a writer who I know doesn't respond to feedback, I usually won't bother. Above and beyond any considerations of fandom etiquette and politeness, not responding to feedback (at least to me) seems to indicate a certain level of indifference towards even getting feedback at all.

And personally, I like writing feedback, I like picking out what I loved, and telling writers exactly what worked for me. So I usually spend a good amount of time trying to construct something more than a quick "thanks!" (not that there's anything wrong with doing that, sometimes it's all I have time for too.) Fandom is a reciprocal culture, if I don't feel like the time I put into feedback is appreciated, I won't leave it. And more than that, feedback is pretty much the best opportunity for readers to interact with writers, it's how a lot of meta gets discussed, and how a lot of people meet new friends. I don't think every writer has to automatically make friends with all of their reviewers, but I think it's nice when the channels of communication are at least open to that, even if all it is is a standard thank you reply, at least that's something.

Some of the best meta discussions I've had have come out of feedback threads, [livejournal.com profile] synecdochic is especially good at fostering those sorts of conversations when she posts fanfic. I know I've gotten to be better friends with at least half of the writers on my friendslist through conversations that started with feedback. And I know not all authors are interested in that or have time for that, but at least a thank you is, I think, called for when people give you a compliment. It just feels, at worst, rude and at least, like they don't care that people have left them feedback.

(stealing [livejournal.com profile] eleveninches' questions:) What do you guys think? Does anyone think a blanketed thank you is a poor response to feedback? Do you not leave feedback if the author doesn't say thanks? Do you get annoyed seeing an author saying a standard thank you to every comment left for them? Do you not care and leave feedback regardless of the author's actions? And, because I know there are several authors on my friendslist, do you guys all respond to your feedback? Do you feel like you have to? Or that it's a waste of time when all you can really say is "thanks" 40 times?

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[identity profile] theantimodel.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2006 08:04 am (UTC)
Sure, it's nice to get answer from the author back, but I don't really feel I'm entitled to get back a russian novel or even a thank you for each I loved the story OMG - so hot!! I comment with.
I much prefer author brainstorming for another story or delicious manipulation.


Entitlement of any sort is offputting to me, whether on the reader or writer ends of the scale. It seems like a lot of authors respond in kind to the feedback they get, with longer feedback leading to longer responses. I can't help but enjoy this, because it seems like it can definitely lead to een more discussion and sometimes new plot bunnies or tighter characterization and more creativity. I don't think any author has to respond to feedback, but it's always seemed the polite thing to do.

And a complete word to what you said about ljers picking and choosing who they respond to. It annoys me because if those are the only people they want to interact with, why don't they just set up filters and lock everything down to just those people? Why have an open journal if you're not actually interested in interacting with the people who read it?
[identity profile] anitac588.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2006 08:41 am (UTC)
I don't think any author has to respond to feedback, but it's always seemed the polite thing to do.

*nods* Yeah, I'm not saying I'm immune to getting a reply from author, especially if it is more than a simple thank you.
Ensuing discussions are fun - and often reveal more of the story's and characters' background, etc -in some cases even additional plot, you know? I love those, pressing on thread links and learning more. But if it is not author's cup of tea I am not hold it against them, which seems to be the case with some.

What I am afraid of is that that hate memes only hurt people and as a result of that make them go away -- which is less fun for everyone who were enjoying the work of that author!