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a question of feedback

  • Jun. 13th, 2006 at 12:07 AM
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So I pretty much missed the whole hate meme phenomena, or at least the SGA one. A lot of people have been posting their outrage, and yeah. I just don't get it (hate memes that is, not outrage) because it seems like, at least in the supernatural threads, it was all about "blah blah blah I hate this person because they write stuff I don't like and they're obviously a huge bitch because other people do like it."

Um. Way to be self-sabotaging fandom! Hating people who are actively participating in fandom just because they're participating is not going to help anything. And what's up with the personal vendettas against BNFs? There's this really nifty feature called the scroll button when you don't want to read something.

Anyway, some people defend hate memes because they're like, the only opportunity for non-BNFs to be heard and anonymous commenting levels the playing field or something. Yes, it totally sucks that lj is more of a popularity contest than a cohesive community, but seriously, if you're yourself are actually involved in fandom, can you not see the good in encouraging everyone to participate? Because it seems to me that a lot of times creative people play off of each other and encouraging that should never, ever be a bad thing. One thing I do wish though, is that some of the stuff brought up in the hate threads could actually be discussed outside of the context of petty, spiteful commentary.

[livejournal.com profile] eleveninches posted the other day, I think in response to something that came up in [livejournal.com profile] sga_hate, about authors responding to feedback. She asked if people are affected by whether or not an author responds to their feedback. While I didn't see the original threads, I imagine some of the hate was directed at several prolific authors in the sga fandom who somewhat notoriously don't respond to feedback. In response to her questions I said this about my feedback habits:

I really try to leave feedback for everything I enjoyed reading, but if it's a writer who I know doesn't respond to feedback, I usually won't bother. Above and beyond any considerations of fandom etiquette and politeness, not responding to feedback (at least to me) seems to indicate a certain level of indifference towards even getting feedback at all.

And personally, I like writing feedback, I like picking out what I loved, and telling writers exactly what worked for me. So I usually spend a good amount of time trying to construct something more than a quick "thanks!" (not that there's anything wrong with doing that, sometimes it's all I have time for too.) Fandom is a reciprocal culture, if I don't feel like the time I put into feedback is appreciated, I won't leave it. And more than that, feedback is pretty much the best opportunity for readers to interact with writers, it's how a lot of meta gets discussed, and how a lot of people meet new friends. I don't think every writer has to automatically make friends with all of their reviewers, but I think it's nice when the channels of communication are at least open to that, even if all it is is a standard thank you reply, at least that's something.

Some of the best meta discussions I've had have come out of feedback threads, [livejournal.com profile] synecdochic is especially good at fostering those sorts of conversations when she posts fanfic. I know I've gotten to be better friends with at least half of the writers on my friendslist through conversations that started with feedback. And I know not all authors are interested in that or have time for that, but at least a thank you is, I think, called for when people give you a compliment. It just feels, at worst, rude and at least, like they don't care that people have left them feedback.

(stealing [livejournal.com profile] eleveninches' questions:) What do you guys think? Does anyone think a blanketed thank you is a poor response to feedback? Do you not leave feedback if the author doesn't say thanks? Do you get annoyed seeing an author saying a standard thank you to every comment left for them? Do you not care and leave feedback regardless of the author's actions? And, because I know there are several authors on my friendslist, do you guys all respond to your feedback? Do you feel like you have to? Or that it's a waste of time when all you can really say is "thanks" 40 times?

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[identity profile] cathexys.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2006 04:55 am (UTC)
for me... responding to feedback takes a lot of... energy.

y'know...i just came back and reread your comments and started to realize that for me it's never about someone falling bhind on responding to a popular story or even not responding at all...we all get overwhelmed or just can't catch up or have RL issues interfere...it's the systematic no-reply policy or (almost worse) the selective policy (i'll only respond to my friends).

i'd never get upset about not getting a response on a story or two or even three...it's no responses on involved emails and consistent refusal to acknowledge comment feedback that drives my policy, at least... [and i know othersfeel different, though i don't seem to be alone in my feelings...]
[identity profile] theantimodel.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2006 05:08 am (UTC)
started to realize that for me it's never about someone falling bhind on responding to a popular story or even not responding at all...we all get overwhelmed or just can't catch up or have RL issues interfere...it's the systematic no-reply policy or (almost worse) the selective policy (i'll only respond to my friends).

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly where the line starts to get drawn for me. As I said in comments to [livejournal.com profile] little_murmurs and [livejournal.com profile] telesilla I don't keep a list of people I've feedbacked and check off whether I recieve a response from them or not. But if I leave someone feedback often enough and never hear a word from them, chances are I'll start noticing the pattern and without anything else to go by, I'm pretty much left to assume that they're not interested in encouraging reader response. However, if I know why a particular author doesn't respond to feedback, I'm probably going to be a lot more interested in continuing to leave it for them. Where I draw the line is when I see an author continue and continue to ignore feedback without any sort of response at all. That has always felt more like a closed door than anything else. Even worse (to me) is seeing an author pick and choose whose feedback they'll answer and noticing that it's only their friends that they reply to.